Survivor 50: In the Hands of the Fans (Lame title, IMO) has started its online voting as they're going to allow fans to have an impact on certain game elements. A lot are cosmetic, but some will impact how the showrunners and producers run the game. Here are the rounds and votes so far, what I said for each, and why.
ROUND 1
Rice or no rice?
I said: Rice
I think Survivors play a more intelligent and well-thought-out game when they aren't nearly starving to death. Operation Italy doesn't happen in 47 without the food reward. Give them rice, I say. Yes, I like Survivor to be tough, but this still allows the game to be tough. They had rice in S2: The Australian Outback, one of the toughest seasons. It also adds a potential layer of drama with someone maybe eating too much rice, them using up too much too soon, or someone not cooking the rice well.
Forced Fire-Making at Final 4?
I said: No Fire-Making
I wish Jeff understood that by introducing Final 4 Firemaking, it only made it so that the threats were taken out even sooner, and we got less time with them. Some say Ben only won HHH because of this, but I say he only won it because of all the idols he kept finding. So if Jeff wants big names like Ben to get to the end, allow Idols to be good through the Final 4. Also, if you're a good enough player, you can stay under the radar, and you'll be a part of the majority at Final 4. Allow firemaking if there's a deadlock at Final 4, sure, but let them have a chance to vote first.
Live Reunion in Los Angeles or Fiji Aftershow?
I said: Live Reunion in Los Angeles
This is a no-brainer. The Fiji aftershow is downright cruel to the final tribal council losers. At least give them time to reflect on their game and prepare themselves for what to say if they lose. Plus, the live reunion allows us to get all players in on it, not just the ones who made the jury. I'm tired of the pre-jurors getting snubbed.
Tribe Colors
I said: Orange, Teal, and Purple
First off, *sigh*, it looks like it's going to be another three tribe season. No way one of the three is the merge tribe. Anyway, it was between this and Blue, Orange, and Green for me. I chose the one I did because we don't see teal enough as a tribe color. But the remaining two options each contained colors that have been used 3+ times in the New Era. My second choice would've been Blue, Orange, and Green, because those are my three favorite colors. I guess I'd also be okay with Red, Green, and Yellow, since those were the colors in the first returning player season ever (All-Stars, Season 8), so it would pay homage to that.
ROUND 2
Final 4 Challenge
I said: Simmotion
What can I say, I love Simmotion. If you don't know, it's the one where you have to constantly catch the balls out of the chutes and put them back on top as they make their way down a mechanism, and you slowly add more balls to it, increasing the difficulty. It really does a good job of showing which Survivors still have the best focus in the game. Plus, it's a classic going back to (at least) S18: Tocantins. I decided against the Final 4 challenge from 46 because pre-game alliances could affect whether someone decides to help another player here. They could abandon their puzzle and help the other player know when to catch their ball. I don't think people want to see that. The third option looked way too similar to dozens of other new era challenges: an obstacle course with a puzzle at the end. Easy one to rule out.
Advantages: How much power?
I said: Minimal power
There is a fine line between too many advantages and not enough. I think the consensus on it is less than what Jeff and production think, which is why I chose "minimal" power. Also, let the players play. They will be legends of the game, after all. And yes, a lot of great game moments have come from an idol or advantage being involved, but typically not multiple, and typically it's a situation not too convoluted or complex to understand. Lastly, there's a good chance a lot of viewers will be returning to the show for the first time in years, likely due to a returning player they like, so they really shouldn't overcomplicate the game for anyone returning after not watching the past dozen seasons or more.
Tribe Swap or No Tribe Swap?
I said: Tribe Swap
This one I debated on. I don't like how the showrunners have only used a tribe swap when a tribe has struggled in the New Era. It should be more random. If they keep it up, players may throw a challenge to avoid a tribe swap. But maybe they want that. Anyway, tribe swaps add a layer of complexity to the game, and especially for a returning player season, we will want to see as many interactions between players as possible. If this were a newbie season we were voting on, I'd likely say "no swap" since I like to see tribal lines tested, not blurred. But again, returning player season. Got to have as many interactions as possible.
ROUND 3
Immunity Necklace Design
I said: Option B (Bird and wingspan make up half of the necklace)
Option A isn't bad, but minus the bird emblem, it looks like dozens of other immunity necklaces. Option B, however, is pretty sick. The literal wingspan of the bird makes up half the necklace. You would look like you literally have a mythical bird on your chest when wearing it. Whereas the other one is relegated to a round emblem on the bottom of it.
Tribe Supplies
I said: Give them Tribe Supplies
This goes with the rice, so I'm sure people will typically have the same answer for this as they did for rice. I said to give them supplies. The "sweat vs. savvy" and the one-on-ones in recent seasons have been underwhelming and a waste of time, frankly. Don't make whether or not they have a pot or machete yet or flint a part of the game. Let the players be the focus. Also, why even have this be a part of the game if they don't even bother to show the tribes struggling when they don't have supplies?
Twists
I said: Keep them straightforward/rare
I'm a big fan of old school Survivor. New School has had its fun with twists, but I fear introducing twists could leave older players in the dust, strategically. Like in Winners at War, I don't want to see all the old school players go early. Give them a chance. Keep the game simple and give them a chance to run their game without having twists they wouldn't have had to worry about on their original season(s).
ROUND 4
Idols or No Idols?
I said: No Idols
A bit disappointing this final round of voting only had one thing for us to vote on. I voted "No Idols", but I could've been convinced to vote the other way. I voted "No Idols" to basically spite Jeff and the producers. The way they word some of these, they think we can't have a good season of Survivor anymore without a bunch of twists and idols and advantages. But here's the other thing: I'd rather have a season with no idols than a season with too many idols. I think this vote will be a bit close and I ultimately think there being Idols will win, but I just wanted to show Jeff and production more of us want a less twist and Idol-heavy season than he may think.
Friday, April 18, 2025
My Votes in Each Round of Survivor 50's Fan Voting
Friday, May 3, 2024
Ranking the Potential Type of Returnee Season for Survivor Season 50
Jeff Probst recently announced that Season 50 of Survivor will be returning players, but that was not much surprise to anybody. We had a feeling they'd have to do something special for Survivor's 50th season. And it will not come too soon, as it's been since Season 40 that we had a season with multiple returning players. That is the longest such stretch in Survivor history without multiple returning players.
So after this announcement, a lot of speculation has happened among Survivor fans as to what kind of cast it will be. There are a few different ways they could go with this, and I'm going to rank them 10 to 1 based on how well each theme would work out and be received by the Survivor fanbase as a whole. Keep in mind Jeff did not explicitly state that it would be all returning players, so there are a couple of previously used themes potentially in play. Here are the possible themes ranked:
10. First Boots
What's so special about first boots? I have no idea. Could they even get 18 or 20 of them? Are there really 18 or 20 first boots we want to see again? I don't think there are. There are certainly a handful, such as Zane, Jelinsky, Zach Wurtenberger, and possibly even Francesca, but the list grows short after that.
9. Fans vs. Favorites 3
Yes, they could do a Fans vs. Favorites 3, which would only be 1/2 returnee players. I highly doubt they will do this since fans want to see a full returning players season, and this would definitely enrage the fanbase a bit.
8. Blood vs. Water 3
Again, it would only be 1/2 of the cast, but we could see 10 new-ish era players with their loved ones. I highly doubt they'll do this again, but Jeff does love this theme, I know that. Again, Jeff did not explicitly say it would be all returning players.
7. Regular All-Stars Type Season
Like All-Stars in Season 8 or Game Changers in Season 34, this would be a regular cast of All-Stars, with winners allowed and no clear theme for the division of the tribes. One small negative I see to this is it would allow the showrunners to have three tribes of six (AGAIN), which has become a New Era staple. But also, this theme would be so bland and generic, and while any returning player season would be fun, not having any kind of theme would instantly make it a bit lame.
6. Rivals
A Rivals-type season has been long-talked about, but never happened. So it would be like Blood vs. Water, but the opposite, I guess. 10 players and 10 of their rivals. Domenick and Chris Noble? Shan and Ricard? Katurah and Bruce? Liz and Q? There are a few ideas. The issue would be casting them so there are even number of men and women. But I like this idea a lot, because I bet there'd be a lot of drama and there'd likely be a rival pairing or two that would actually want to work together, since no one would expect them to. But Rivals seems like a bit of a kind of lamer season, so it's here at number 6.
5. New Era vs. Old Era
I don't think it'd be called this (New School vs. Old School? Battle of the Ages/Eras?), but this is one I could see happening that wouldn't excite the fanbase too much, but maybe enough to keep the ratings up. They'd have to settle on a demarcation point as to what constitutes a new era and what constitutes an old era player. My suggestion is Season 25 as the demarcation point, since that'd be halfway at this point. But I do see the issue with trying to find 8-10 old era players that would be willing and able to keep up with the new era players. They key being if they're able to. Not many would. Alternatively, they could make this a three-tribe format, with 6 old era players (1-19), 6 "middle" era players (21-39), and 6 New Era players (41-49). But again, I'd worry about the old era players keeping up.
4. Outwit vs. Outplay vs. Outlast
What would be a good way to culminate 50 seasons of Survivor? By having six players that have excelled in outwitting, six players who excelled in outplaying, and six players who excelled in outlasting others. Again, this would be another three tribe, six player start, but I would be okay with this one. It would be interesting to see who would be on which tribe. I would worry about the Outplay tribe possibly dominating challenges, but that's where they'd have to cast a couple of players who excelled more in finding idols rather than challenges. One thing I'd say about this season's cast: No losing finalists. If they truly excelled at "out"-whatevering, then they would've won their season.
3. Heroes vs. Villains 2
I'm a huge fan of this theme, and I think the fanbase as a whole would really like it. However, the line between hero and villain has certainly gotten blurred over the years in the game of Survivor. Maybe they could do Heroes vs. Villains vs. Anti-Heroes? That would be a bit easier for them to cast for. Either way, the theme of good vs. evil is always entertaining. A good story has a good villian to root against and a good hero to root for.
2. Legends vs. Rising Stars
This is a theme I'm putting forth, and I think it would work. First off, a tribe of legends. Who wouldn't want that? No restrictions on how much they've played or if they've won or not. Just 8-10 legends of the game--some of the biggest names in Survivor history. We certainly have plenty of those. Then, on the other tribe, you have 8-10 up-and-comers. Rising stars, if you will. These would be players who made a big name for themselves their first time playing and are determined to do so again. It would be like having a baseball game of future Hall of Famers against future All-Stars. Wouldn't that be fun to watch?
1. Second Chances 2
Let the fans decide again. Why not? There are a lot of ways to run the voting, and who wouldn't love to have a say in the cast again? Potential players could run campaigns, trying to establish trending hashtags for their support. The previous time we had the fans vote, social media was not the thing it is today. Yes, this would only be players who have played once before, but that's fine--we've got plenty of those. I do worry that the showrunners/producers would find a way to force a minimum number of New Era (41+) players in the game, but even if that happened, there are plenty of those who we'd love to see again as well. Also, I must add, it'd be hard to enforce the diversity mandate. They couldn't split them up into whites vs. minorities. But I'm sure they could find a way. Perhaps fans could pick their favorites from a list of 100, and the producers choose from there. Just an idea.